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Old 10-25-2005, 07:21 PM
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8-cork, I use to draw the ball as well and have starte fading for one reson, and that was number 2 on jim_0068's list.

Brian Manzella would call it a leakage hook. Wrist breaks down slightly and the face closes. It's almost what I would call a false draw. It works ok if timing is perfect, if you're a hair off a snap hook can happen in a heartbeat.

It helps me to think of swinging the forearms not the hands.
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:49 PM
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If you're a decent player i've come to the conclusion that bent left wrists are a result of a poor downswing pivot, specifically the hips stop rotating. It's a chain reaction, hips stop, pivots stop, arms fly through, hit the ball, clubhead flys past the hands.

Just my humble opinion
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Old 10-26-2005, 08:42 AM
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I think that is exactly my problem, when my timing is good, I play very well, but I can also hook it off the course at any time. The pro at the course I play told me the other day that I needed to work on my pivot. I have been so preoccupied as a hitter working on my hands I have ignored my pivot. Any ideas on how a hitter can develop a better pivot?
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Old 10-26-2005, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 8cork
I think that is exactly my problem, when my timing is good, I play very well, but I can also hook it off the course at any time. The pro at the course I play told me the other day that I needed to work on my pivot. I have been so preoccupied as a hitter working on my hands I have ignored my pivot. Any ideas on how a hitter can develop a better pivot?
take the club to the top, consciously hip slide, then snap your hips. Don't worry about club/ball contact. Just start training the hips.

Once you get the feeling, do a normal "hit" at half speed. Focussing on turning your hips and getting to a finish.

Once you're on a good "track" take it at full speed
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Old 10-28-2005, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 8cork
I think that is exactly my problem, when my timing is good, I play very well, but I can also hook it off the course at any time.

Any ideas on how a hitter can develop a better pivot?
  • With an uncompensated Hitting Stroke, place the ball forwards to impart slice spin on the ball. This is due to the characteristics of Angled Hinging.
  • Unlike the Swinger's Pivot, the Hitter's Pivot do not spin or truly rotate. Instead, it acts as a solid block for your right arm to push off with. So minimise any rotary motion.
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Old 10-27-2005, 04:42 AM
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Guys, remember Delivery Paths guides the Hands, while Delivery Lines guide the Clubhead.

Both Hitters and Swingers use a Straight Line Delivery Path per 12-1/2 Basic Patterns (swingers use top arc straight line, but still a straight line).
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So, swinger should not use a curved delivery path as suggested by rwh? that means no hip turn first for swinger?
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Old 10-27-2005, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rwh
Either way, the Hitter starts down with a slide parallel to the Delivery Line.
Just so there is no confusion with the lurkers and those who don't post...hitters slide parallel to their delivery line yes, but it is a CROSS-LINE move.

Just wanted to throw that in there.
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How can you close the cupface enough to stop the push? I use a cross line and the ball goes straight to the right. I used a closed stance by pulling my right foot back, at the top I use a straight line hands/shoulder to the ball.
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:12 PM
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How can you close the cupface enough to stop the push? I use a cross line and the ball goes straight to the right. I used a closed stance by pulling my right foot back, at the top I use a straight line hands/shoulder to the ball.
Make sure you're using Angled Hinging.

Remember that the whether your stance is open/square/closed doesn't really matter. The most important thing is that your Plane Line is closed, per 10-5-E.

Set up the clubface facing your intended target at Impact Fix, or even a little closed to the intended target for longer clubs. This allows for the 'opening' of the clubface when using Angled Hinging.
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