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Jeff 12-19-2008 08:53 PM

MFT swing
 
Do you think that his ideas about a MFT swing make sense from a TGM perspective?

http://www.aroundhawaii.com/lifestyl...ful-swing.html

Jeff.

Hennybogan 12-20-2008 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 59183)
Do you think that his ideas about a MFT swing make sense from a TGM perspective?

http://www.aroundhawaii.com/lifestyl...ful-swing.html

Jeff.

JEFF,

I've been reading your stuff for a couple of years, this is the first peice of real meat I've read, It harkens HK's words. 4-1-2-3. You might click on the author to read all articles.

Jeff 12-20-2008 12:57 AM

HB

So this MFH theory resonates with you?

He states-: "The second firing needs to be really explosive and it needs to drive you through the last 90 degrees of hip rotation till the end of the swing.

In a biomechanical graph, this means that Tiger has two velocity peaks for his hips and shoulders. His second hip velocity peak occurs just prior to impact and this "slingshots" his shoulders (2nd firing) into the ball with maximum force. Ben Hogan did this as well.

But Jamie's swing is even more violent and powerful. His hips and shoulders reach their 2nd velocity peaks right at impact. All of this adds to his speed AND effective mass at impact. The added mass of his body firing at high speed right at impact will add to his smash factor and higher ball speeds at impact. This is sledgehammering at its finest."

Does this theory seem sensible? Does the idea of firing the hips/shoulders again before impact increase ball flight distance? How? Could you provide the causal link explanation that I obviously cannot grasp. How does the added mass of the body increase smash factor and produce higher ball speeds?

He stated-: "If your hips and shoulders slow down too early in the downswing (because no one told it to fire again), then naturally conservation of angular momentum takes over and all speed and energy goes to the hands. Voila! We are casting! At the very least, without one's shoulders firing at high speeds at impact, we get a hand flip. It just can't be helped. We flip because we don't fire our hips and shoulders again."

So, do you believe that a failure to fire the hips and shoulders again leads to hand flipping?

Jeff.

12 piece bucket 12-20-2008 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 59192)
HB

So this MFH theory resonates with you?

He states-: "The second firing needs to be really explosive and it needs to drive you through the last 90 degrees of hip rotation till the end of the swing.

In a biomechanical graph, this means that Tiger has two velocity peaks for his hips and shoulders. His second hip velocity peak occurs just prior to impact and this "slingshots" his shoulders (2nd firing) into the ball with maximum force. Ben Hogan did this as well.

But Jamie's swing is even more violent and powerful. His hips and shoulders reach their 2nd velocity peaks right at impact. All of this adds to his speed AND effective mass at impact. The added mass of his body firing at high speed right at impact will add to his smash factor and higher ball speeds at impact. This is sledgehammering at its finest."

Does this theory seem sensible? Does the idea of firing the hips/shoulders again before impact increase ball flight distance? How? Could you provide the causal link explanation that I obviously cannot grasp. How does the added mass of the body increase smash factor and produce higher ball speeds?

He stated-: "If your hips and shoulders slow down too early in the downswing (because no one told it to fire again), then naturally conservation of angular momentum takes over and all speed and energy goes to the hands. Voila! We are casting! At the very least, without one's shoulders firing at high speeds at impact, we get a hand flip. It just can't be helped. We flip because we don't fire our hips and shoulders again."

So, do you believe that a failure to fire the hips and shoulders again leads to hand flipping?

Jeff.

Hips going forward . . . vertical forces via the ground . . . swing the arms FAST . . . This dude has something . . . strong on dynamics but weak on geometry . . . the articles on tiger's transition and the arms swing articles are really good.

Yoda 12-20-2008 01:11 AM

Life Of the Party
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hennybogan (Post 59191)

JEFF,

I've been reading your stuff for a couple of years . . .

Wow, am I ever new to this party! I've been sensing it, but I had no idea.

At the same time, it looks like we're on track pretty quick with this dedicated, quarantined forum.

:salut:

Hennybogan 12-20-2008 01:13 AM

In simplest terms, hit it as low as you can in your downswing and as high as you can in your follow though.

Yoda 12-20-2008 01:16 AM

Lead, Lag and Flail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hennybogan (Post 59196)

In simplest terms, hit it as low as you can in your downswing and as high as you can in your follow though.

Now that sounds interesting!

:golf:

Hennybogan 12-20-2008 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 59195)
Wow, am I ever new to this party! I've been sensing it, but I had no idea . . .

:salut:


I try to keep current. I had Jeff on another forum before. Much disagreement, but an appreciation of the desire for knowledge. Always sorting, with a TGM filter.

Jeff 12-20-2008 01:18 AM

HB

Thanks for commenting. Unfortunately, I haven't the foggiest idea what you are talking about - I usually need detailed explanations to understand a person's alternative perspective.

Jeff.

Hennybogan 12-20-2008 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 59197)
Now that sounds interesting!

:golf:

I see it in Tiger's iron swings (with a bit of bobbing). The sound of it is something to behold. In slo-mo, you would swear he was hitting the stinger, but in real life, it is the highest, purest shot ever hit. Not that he swings this way all the time.


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